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Friday, July 19, 2013
Monday, November 19, 2012
It's a Small World
Just a personal story to share....
I teach classes online to national organizations. I'm always interested to speak to people from other areas, and I'm good at hearing accents (especially being from North Carolina).
So when I was talking to an organization in Wyoming, I knew this woman was from North Carolina, and more specifically, the Piedmont area.
When the training was over I had to ask.... "Are you originally from Wyoming?"
"No, I'm from North Carolina" Nailed it! "from Greenville, actually from a small town called Kinston"
My immediate response... "oh yes, I know Kinston. My whole family is from that area, am related to the Kilpatricks and Mewborns and Webbs"
Small gasp. "My aunt married a Webb"
And so it was that on a random training last week, me in Oregon and a woman in Wyoming, we realized that we were related. Not directly, her aunt married a Webb. But I have her aunt & the Webb uncle in my database.
It's a small small world.
I teach classes online to national organizations. I'm always interested to speak to people from other areas, and I'm good at hearing accents (especially being from North Carolina).
So when I was talking to an organization in Wyoming, I knew this woman was from North Carolina, and more specifically, the Piedmont area.
When the training was over I had to ask.... "Are you originally from Wyoming?"
"No, I'm from North Carolina" Nailed it! "from Greenville, actually from a small town called Kinston"
My immediate response... "oh yes, I know Kinston. My whole family is from that area, am related to the Kilpatricks and Mewborns and Webbs"
Small gasp. "My aunt married a Webb"
And so it was that on a random training last week, me in Oregon and a woman in Wyoming, we realized that we were related. Not directly, her aunt married a Webb. But I have her aunt & the Webb uncle in my database.
It's a small small world.
Monday, October 15, 2012
Arthur Young, Video
For me, genealogy research remains something For Fun that happens on nights when the interest hits me. Sometimes I pick a name and research for a day or a week. Other nights, like tonight, I go back to names that are familiar for me and just start Googling, to see if anything new has arrived to the world.
Tonight, in a random search of all my Great Uncles, YouTube, believe it or not, gives us a video of Art Young killing a moose with a bow.
It's old, it's a "Silent Film" with descriptive slides, and very loud classical music in the background. We're talking about Art Young, 1882-1935. The idea that a video of him in the flesh has survived, much less that someone put it on YouTube.. well, it is a fascinating world indeed.
Tonight, in a random search of all my Great Uncles, YouTube, believe it or not, gives us a video of Art Young killing a moose with a bow.
It's old, it's a "Silent Film" with descriptive slides, and very loud classical music in the background. We're talking about Art Young, 1882-1935. The idea that a video of him in the flesh has survived, much less that someone put it on YouTube.. well, it is a fascinating world indeed.
Monday, July 9, 2012
The Story of Edward Babbitt (Bobet, or Bobit)
There are times I just start typing away, transcribing pages from the books I find on Google books, not sure of what I'll find. Today, who knew I'd stumble upon an Indian Massacre. So I have to share.
Collections of the Old Colony Historical Society
Papers read before the Historical Society
Indian Massacres in Taunton, by Gen. Ebenezer W. Pierce
Read before the Old Colony Historical Society, Jan 9 1888
"....Edward Babbitt, or Bobit as Gen. Winslow wrote the surname, was enumerated among the inhabitants of Taunton who were able to bear arms in 1643, which fact shows that at that date, he was more than 16years old but under 60.
In 1668 he with John Hathway and Timothy Holloway purchased 400 acres track of land in what was then Taunton, but now Berkley. This tract had been the farm of Mr. William Hook and Mr. Nicholas Street.
Edward Bobit was juryman for Taunton in 1668. He appears to have been married in or near the year 1654. The names of his children:
Edward, July 1655, married Feb 1, 1683, Abigail Tisdale
Sarah, Mar 20, 1657, married Mar 25, 1680, Samuel Pitts
Hannah, Mar 9, 1660
Damaris, Sept 15 1663
Elkanah, Dec 5, 1665, married June 25, 1699, Elizabeth Briggs
Dorcas, June 20, 1667 died April 6, 1674, aged 6 years, 9 months, 20 days
Esther, april 15 1669, married August 23, 1693, Edward Paull. He died July 5, 1740; she died November 15, 1751
Ruth, Aug 7 1671
Deliverance, Dec 15, 1673
...At the commencement of the Indian hostilities in June 1675, Edward Babbitt and family were compelled to abandon their homes in what is now Berkley, and beat a hasty retreat to one fo the fortified houses not far from the Green in Taunton. There they remained nearly or quite a year when Edward ventured to visit his abandoned and desolate home; meeting no Indians on his way until he had reached his destination, made his examinations and was returning to the fortified house in Taunton, when he learned that he had been discovered by the Indians one or more of whom were following him.
When upon the high grounds a little easterly the site of Berkley and Dighton bridge, Babbitt despairing of escaping the foe by flight, sought to secrete himself in the top of a tree. He possibly would have succeeded but for his dog that altogether too faithfully persisted in keeping his master company by posting himself at the foot of the tree that he climbed, where by the foliage was hidden from view. Thus the dog betrayed his master's hiding place to his pursuers and he was shot and killed, and his dead body left at the foot of the tree, where the white people found it some time after, and buried it near by.
The precise spot where the remains of Babbitt were found and buried are still pointed out, and until quite recently has been marked by a slab of dark colored stone upon which was rudely carved:
BoBeT
KILLeD
JUNe 1676
A slight depression in the ground is pointed out as all that remains to show were Bobet was buried. I visited the spot June 17, 1878. The gravestone had been removed and was lying beside the wall several rods from the grave. It took considerable time and pains to decipher its inscription, that was rapidly becoming effaced. "
Collections of the Old Colony Historical Society
Papers read before the Historical Society
Indian Massacres in Taunton, by Gen. Ebenezer W. Pierce
Read before the Old Colony Historical Society, Jan 9 1888
"....Edward Babbitt, or Bobit as Gen. Winslow wrote the surname, was enumerated among the inhabitants of Taunton who were able to bear arms in 1643, which fact shows that at that date, he was more than 16years old but under 60.
In 1668 he with John Hathway and Timothy Holloway purchased 400 acres track of land in what was then Taunton, but now Berkley. This tract had been the farm of Mr. William Hook and Mr. Nicholas Street.
Edward Bobit was juryman for Taunton in 1668. He appears to have been married in or near the year 1654. The names of his children:
Edward, July 1655, married Feb 1, 1683, Abigail Tisdale
Sarah, Mar 20, 1657, married Mar 25, 1680, Samuel Pitts
Hannah, Mar 9, 1660
Damaris, Sept 15 1663
Elkanah, Dec 5, 1665, married June 25, 1699, Elizabeth Briggs
Dorcas, June 20, 1667 died April 6, 1674, aged 6 years, 9 months, 20 days
Esther, april 15 1669, married August 23, 1693, Edward Paull. He died July 5, 1740; she died November 15, 1751
Ruth, Aug 7 1671
Deliverance, Dec 15, 1673
...At the commencement of the Indian hostilities in June 1675, Edward Babbitt and family were compelled to abandon their homes in what is now Berkley, and beat a hasty retreat to one fo the fortified houses not far from the Green in Taunton. There they remained nearly or quite a year when Edward ventured to visit his abandoned and desolate home; meeting no Indians on his way until he had reached his destination, made his examinations and was returning to the fortified house in Taunton, when he learned that he had been discovered by the Indians one or more of whom were following him.
When upon the high grounds a little easterly the site of Berkley and Dighton bridge, Babbitt despairing of escaping the foe by flight, sought to secrete himself in the top of a tree. He possibly would have succeeded but for his dog that altogether too faithfully persisted in keeping his master company by posting himself at the foot of the tree that he climbed, where by the foliage was hidden from view. Thus the dog betrayed his master's hiding place to his pursuers and he was shot and killed, and his dead body left at the foot of the tree, where the white people found it some time after, and buried it near by.
The precise spot where the remains of Babbitt were found and buried are still pointed out, and until quite recently has been marked by a slab of dark colored stone upon which was rudely carved:
BoBeT
KILLeD
JUNe 1676
A slight depression in the ground is pointed out as all that remains to show were Bobet was buried. I visited the spot June 17, 1878. The gravestone had been removed and was lying beside the wall several rods from the grave. It took considerable time and pains to decipher its inscription, that was rapidly becoming effaced. "
Saturday, June 9, 2012
Ancestry... ownership, and accountability
So after being a member of Ancestry for, oh 12+years? When did Ancestry start? Because I was there back when it started and it was FREE. But now finally after being a Paid member for so many years, I finally decided to upload my "tree" to Ancestry.
I'm still torn.
I figure, throw it out there for those to find it.
I still love Rootsweb. I'd thought that Ancestry tied in to Rootsweb. It used to, at least. You'd look someone up on Ancestry, you'd get their Rootsweb submission.
Today, still, you have a Rootsweb tree and you get the Ancestry hints (provided that you're an Ancestry member, of course). So it seemed like the two were still tied together.
But recently people have told me that they could find ME on Ancestry. Which after 17yrs of having an online database just seemed preposterous, yet... True. My database was not accessible on Ancestry.
So I did it. I uploaded my tree.
All my 28K people including thousands of bad data, because you can't have one without the other.
I've tried.
I've purged as much as I can about real people I know about, but so so many years of bad research with no sources and nothing to back it up... is still part of my tree.
It pains me that I've found yet another venue to perpetuate my years of bad research.
And so, I apologize to you out there for that.
---
I'm not a fan of the "online tree", as far as the online version housing my notes and sources. MY research is stored in my database, on my computer or server or wherever I have it. I do not want it to be on Ancestry. I'm not a fan of "including this source" into whatever record I find online. I do not want Ancestry to be my house. And I'm quite sure that somewhere in the rules and regulations that I clicked "accept" to without reading, I've now allowed Ancestry to OWN my data. Which I REALLY DO NOT LIKE.
That being said, I uploaded my gedcom without sources attached. I included notes, not that anyone will really look at the notes pages. Right now, it probably looks like an unsourced tree, which is grossly untrue and unfair. But my fear of Ancestry owning my sources, I'm just not happy with doing that... yet.
So the few "hints" that I've found along the way - there is something nice and appealing about that little green leaf that appears - I have "added" to my tree. Of course I've manually added to my own database as I move along. Because, well, I've learned better over the years.
---
I'm also recently not a fan that you can add someone else's submission to your own tree, whether photos or documents. Which it may source it through the Ancestry online tree, I find this oddly EASY to suddenly claim this document as MINE.
It's not MINE! I've found So many documents and photos attached to Ancestry online trees that so easily get incorporated into my own tree... and they're not mine! This is a LIE to just, with a simple click, attach them to my tree. Someone found that oral history, compiled it, wrote it down. For me to just attach it to my own tree.... it's just wrong.
I'll say it. It's WRONG. It's TOO EASY. And it's simply not fair to those that have done the work.
---
So in researching my own immediate family, no surprise to find that not only is my data attributed to others' trees, but so are my photos, which I supplied here on this blog.
And I'm questioning that a bit.
I mean, I post a picture of James Barney Webb. I have no more connection to him than any other cousin. Just because I own this picture doesn't make me any closer to him than a cousin out there that has equally never met him. Which is why I share! I claim ownership because I physically own that picture in my boxes and safes of historical documents about my family, but I have no ownership to this man.
And I'm happy to share.
Let me reiterate this for myself and everyone out there.. I am happy to share! It is, afterall, what we're all doing here. I posted pictures on this blog and on my personal website in the effort to share. I am SO thankful to people who've shared their pictures with me. And I am SO SORRY for those that I do not give credit - goodness knows I did not document anything for so many years. I am exactly the person I'm trying to stop right now.
But there's something about Ancestry... maybe it's just my own witness of "it's" changes over the years, that while I want to share, it does bug me when I see MY photo show up on 30 other people's online tree. I don't know what that is, and I'm working on it.
But as far as my online tree at Ancestry goes, I've now watermarked my images. If you want to research or do a simple google search, you'll find all the same images here on my blog, you can choose whether or not to source them. But just because you can simply "add to tree" to someone in your online tree... I think a watermark is warranted.
Let me know how you feel about this.
I'm still torn.
I figure, throw it out there for those to find it.
I still love Rootsweb. I'd thought that Ancestry tied in to Rootsweb. It used to, at least. You'd look someone up on Ancestry, you'd get their Rootsweb submission.
Today, still, you have a Rootsweb tree and you get the Ancestry hints (provided that you're an Ancestry member, of course). So it seemed like the two were still tied together.
But recently people have told me that they could find ME on Ancestry. Which after 17yrs of having an online database just seemed preposterous, yet... True. My database was not accessible on Ancestry.
So I did it. I uploaded my tree.
All my 28K people including thousands of bad data, because you can't have one without the other.
I've tried.
I've purged as much as I can about real people I know about, but so so many years of bad research with no sources and nothing to back it up... is still part of my tree.
It pains me that I've found yet another venue to perpetuate my years of bad research.
And so, I apologize to you out there for that.
---
I'm not a fan of the "online tree", as far as the online version housing my notes and sources. MY research is stored in my database, on my computer or server or wherever I have it. I do not want it to be on Ancestry. I'm not a fan of "including this source" into whatever record I find online. I do not want Ancestry to be my house. And I'm quite sure that somewhere in the rules and regulations that I clicked "accept" to without reading, I've now allowed Ancestry to OWN my data. Which I REALLY DO NOT LIKE.
That being said, I uploaded my gedcom without sources attached. I included notes, not that anyone will really look at the notes pages. Right now, it probably looks like an unsourced tree, which is grossly untrue and unfair. But my fear of Ancestry owning my sources, I'm just not happy with doing that... yet.
So the few "hints" that I've found along the way - there is something nice and appealing about that little green leaf that appears - I have "added" to my tree. Of course I've manually added to my own database as I move along. Because, well, I've learned better over the years.
---
I'm also recently not a fan that you can add someone else's submission to your own tree, whether photos or documents. Which it may source it through the Ancestry online tree, I find this oddly EASY to suddenly claim this document as MINE.
It's not MINE! I've found So many documents and photos attached to Ancestry online trees that so easily get incorporated into my own tree... and they're not mine! This is a LIE to just, with a simple click, attach them to my tree. Someone found that oral history, compiled it, wrote it down. For me to just attach it to my own tree.... it's just wrong.
I'll say it. It's WRONG. It's TOO EASY. And it's simply not fair to those that have done the work.
---
So in researching my own immediate family, no surprise to find that not only is my data attributed to others' trees, but so are my photos, which I supplied here on this blog.
And I'm questioning that a bit.
I mean, I post a picture of James Barney Webb. I have no more connection to him than any other cousin. Just because I own this picture doesn't make me any closer to him than a cousin out there that has equally never met him. Which is why I share! I claim ownership because I physically own that picture in my boxes and safes of historical documents about my family, but I have no ownership to this man.
And I'm happy to share.
Let me reiterate this for myself and everyone out there.. I am happy to share! It is, afterall, what we're all doing here. I posted pictures on this blog and on my personal website in the effort to share. I am SO thankful to people who've shared their pictures with me. And I am SO SORRY for those that I do not give credit - goodness knows I did not document anything for so many years. I am exactly the person I'm trying to stop right now.
But there's something about Ancestry... maybe it's just my own witness of "it's" changes over the years, that while I want to share, it does bug me when I see MY photo show up on 30 other people's online tree. I don't know what that is, and I'm working on it.
But as far as my online tree at Ancestry goes, I've now watermarked my images. If you want to research or do a simple google search, you'll find all the same images here on my blog, you can choose whether or not to source them. But just because you can simply "add to tree" to someone in your online tree... I think a watermark is warranted.
Let me know how you feel about this.
Tuesday, May 1, 2012
Loops of Wisconsin, Photos
These were all given from Susan Bauer back in the early days of our correspondence about the Loops family, when we first discovered that Charles (top picture below) of Wisconsin was the brother of Frederick (MY ggGrandfather) of North Carolina.
Charles & Theresa Klebenow Loops
married 1874
Grace Deloris Loops
1893-1967
George Frederick Loops
1876-1951
George, Theresa (mother), Harry Charles Loops (1883-1958)
Olive Caroline Loops (1885-1960), Theresa (mother), Grace
Theresa K. Loops
Walter Albert Loops (1878-1946)
and Vincey Elizabeth Preston (1876-1944)
Friday, April 20, 2012
Janet Dekle Loops Stewart
Tonight we lost my aunt Janet to, well, the worlds stupidest, most infuriating disease... alzheimers. She said goodbye peacefully in her sleep. She was 75.
She was hysterical, SILLY, flighty :-), devoted, generous, loving... just a wonderful woman. Her home was "the family home" to visit multiple times a year, she and her husband were more than just family... they were friends; their friends were family; their kids friends' were family. I remember thinking it the Most Fun House EVER!
She was hysterical, SILLY, flighty :-), devoted, generous, loving... just a wonderful woman. Her home was "the family home" to visit multiple times a year, she and her husband were more than just family... they were friends; their friends were family; their kids friends' were family. I remember thinking it the Most Fun House EVER!
Wednesday, March 28, 2012
What a year GONE looks like
I have not "blogged" about my research in over a year.
And to any/all of you, I apologize for that. Life does kick in sometimes; it happens.
I believe in the sharing of genealogical research, always have. To me, it is the ONE great gift of this vast internet. (oh the Internet brings so many other wonderful things... and so many terrible things as well. The Sharing of Knowledge and Research is one that I will continue to hold on to for some time... I hope). I remain optimistic that we are philanthropically interested... to give back.
In my year of not blogging, I have:
- responded to nearly 200 personal emails, mainly through my Rootsweb database or through my personal website
- fixed over 50 "postem's" to my Rootsweb database
- updated my Rootsweb database at least 6 times... I'll admit, it's now been a few weeks, but I'm trying to get back on getting my Most Recent Version ( I try every month, but... life happens)
- found an amazing HUGE number of ERRORs on my own, through post-ems, through emails
Errors... they're just awful.
I despise propagating incorrect information. I regret so much in my youth of being a bad researcher. I'd say nearly 95% of the post-ems and emails I get about corrections are not about my own line... but of lines that are in my database, that came from when I was a horrible researcher and didn't document anything as far as Source. It pains me that I have probably 1/4 of a database of legitimate, documented research... and the rest is really... "internet stuff".
Lessons learned. And once in the database, can I clean? NO. No, I have no choice but to upload the whole she-bang and hope that people communicate with me on my discrepancies.
So, I'm not blogging. I miss my blogger friends and my blogger world. I miss genealogy research as a whole. My TODO list is just unimaginable right now... but it is the way of it.
POINT BEING: I will respond to emails, comments, post-ems. I will fix. I might not be 24/7 online to blog about new research, but I'm still here.
"Thank you Jo for all you do and give back".... it's a statement recently said to me, and two things I note: that #1, you know I'm trying; and #2, you don't know my full name which means we haven't communicated over email or anything beyond this blog. And that is OK too! that both encourages me and gives me despair. I give back when I have the chance; and while that's not good enough... it's just how it is right now. I will continue to post everything I know on my Rootsweb. That will remain constant, every few months if not more.
And to any/all of you, I apologize for that. Life does kick in sometimes; it happens.
I believe in the sharing of genealogical research, always have. To me, it is the ONE great gift of this vast internet. (oh the Internet brings so many other wonderful things... and so many terrible things as well. The Sharing of Knowledge and Research is one that I will continue to hold on to for some time... I hope). I remain optimistic that we are philanthropically interested... to give back.
In my year of not blogging, I have:
- responded to nearly 200 personal emails, mainly through my Rootsweb database or through my personal website
- fixed over 50 "postem's" to my Rootsweb database
- updated my Rootsweb database at least 6 times... I'll admit, it's now been a few weeks, but I'm trying to get back on getting my Most Recent Version ( I try every month, but... life happens)
- found an amazing HUGE number of ERRORs on my own, through post-ems, through emails
Errors... they're just awful.
I despise propagating incorrect information. I regret so much in my youth of being a bad researcher. I'd say nearly 95% of the post-ems and emails I get about corrections are not about my own line... but of lines that are in my database, that came from when I was a horrible researcher and didn't document anything as far as Source. It pains me that I have probably 1/4 of a database of legitimate, documented research... and the rest is really... "internet stuff".
Lessons learned. And once in the database, can I clean? NO. No, I have no choice but to upload the whole she-bang and hope that people communicate with me on my discrepancies.
So, I'm not blogging. I miss my blogger friends and my blogger world. I miss genealogy research as a whole. My TODO list is just unimaginable right now... but it is the way of it.
POINT BEING: I will respond to emails, comments, post-ems. I will fix. I might not be 24/7 online to blog about new research, but I'm still here.
"Thank you Jo for all you do and give back".... it's a statement recently said to me, and two things I note: that #1, you know I'm trying; and #2, you don't know my full name which means we haven't communicated over email or anything beyond this blog. And that is OK too! that both encourages me and gives me despair. I give back when I have the chance; and while that's not good enough... it's just how it is right now. I will continue to post everything I know on my Rootsweb. That will remain constant, every few months if not more.
Sunday, May 22, 2011
Time-Out
yes, I'm utilizing a post to offer apologies. But I feel it. It's so sad to see that I haven't posted since February. This is the unfortunate thing of amateur, "hobby" (although that doesn't exactly fit me either and is somewhat saddening), genealogical research. There are high and low points.
I'm just busy. Who knew at part-time job at the local Historical Society would become something, honestly, more than full-time. I LOVE IT! I'm in heaven. But it means my time is elsewhere.
So, here's my apology. Things will be greatly different in a month, where my nights will be without other commitments, so I'll, no-doubt, have time for research and posting again.
I am not gone. Please send me comments and emails. I'll respond!
Happy huntings
I'm just busy. Who knew at part-time job at the local Historical Society would become something, honestly, more than full-time. I LOVE IT! I'm in heaven. But it means my time is elsewhere.
So, here's my apology. Things will be greatly different in a month, where my nights will be without other commitments, so I'll, no-doubt, have time for research and posting again.
I am not gone. Please send me comments and emails. I'll respond!
Happy huntings
Friday, February 11, 2011
Friday Family Photos - Young Family
William Gaylord Young was born in Richland Co., OH 1835. In 1875, he came to California and located in Kelseyville. He died 3 April, 1897
Home in Kelseyville
Oct 25, 1866, he married Miss Alice Orilla Tuthill, native of Illinois
She was Born 7 May 1848 - died 3 Oct 1917, in San Francisco
Orrie Ella Young
- Graduated music at Mills Collect
- Organist & Choir director at Presidio, and Hamilton Square Baptist
was a "San Francisco Musical Figure"
7 Jun 1872 - 18 Sept 1957
Never married. No Issue.
Willard Tuthill Young
- First graduating Class of Stanford
- Brinks insurance Investigator and "well-known San Francisco Baritone"
Never married. No issue.
3 Jul 1874 - 8 Nov 1957
Charles Edgar Young
- Dentist, Graduated U.C. 1905
married Orabel Brown - 3 children: William Edgarton, Helen, and Charles Homer
4 Aug 1877 - 9 Nov 1959
Arthur Howard Young
- renowned Bow-Hunter - Read Here for More Information
- traveled hunting trips to Alaska, Greenland and Alaska
- is the "Young" in Pope-Young Club & Pope-Young Awards, in bow-hunting
- married Elizabeth Shaw. Son Chuck Young
(photo from Stickbow.com)
Roy Osmond Young
- Probation officer for Juvenile's
- married Ethel. No issue
25 Sept 1885 - 10 April 1979
Home in Kelseyville
Oct 25, 1866, he married Miss Alice Orilla Tuthill, native of Illinois
She was Born 7 May 1848 - died 3 Oct 1917, in San Francisco
Orrie Ella Young
- Graduated music at Mills Collect
- Organist & Choir director at Presidio, and Hamilton Square Baptist
was a "San Francisco Musical Figure"
7 Jun 1872 - 18 Sept 1957
Never married. No Issue.
Willard Tuthill Young
- First graduating Class of Stanford
- Brinks insurance Investigator and "well-known San Francisco Baritone"
Never married. No issue.
3 Jul 1874 - 8 Nov 1957
Charles Edgar Young
- Dentist, Graduated U.C. 1905
married Orabel Brown - 3 children: William Edgarton, Helen, and Charles Homer
4 Aug 1877 - 9 Nov 1959
Arthur Howard Young
- renowned Bow-Hunter - Read Here for More Information
- traveled hunting trips to Alaska, Greenland and Alaska
- is the "Young" in Pope-Young Club & Pope-Young Awards, in bow-hunting
- married Elizabeth Shaw. Son Chuck Young
(photo from Stickbow.com)
Roy Osmond Young
- Probation officer for Juvenile's
- married Ethel. No issue
25 Sept 1885 - 10 April 1979
Sunday, February 6, 2011
Surname listing - HAINES (Ireland)
I'm counting down my son's ancestors. I've finally found new information! That Ernest S. Morgan is NOT the correct gGrand-father, he is actually Walter Scott Morgan. And he married Anne Rose STONE. Her mother was a HAYNES. So this is going back a bit, to his 2nd Great-Grandparents.
This is absolutely a work in progress - I JUST started on this family and only have online information (census and other trees) as sources.
Today.... #11... Edna Maurine HAYNES
7 generations of HAYNES/HAINES connected through:
4. Walter Scott Morgan (1912-1950)
5. Anne Rose Stone (1918 - ?)
10. JAMES ELLIS STONE was born on 27 Dec 1893 in Washington. He died in unknown.
11. EDNA MAURINE HAYNES was born on 14 Apr 1899 in Silver Creek, Nebraska. She died on 7 Jan 1973 in Central Point, Oregon
Children of James and Edna: Edna "Eddie" May Stone, (1916-?), Anne Rose Stone Morgan (1918-?)
22. LEONARD C. HAYNES was born about 1876 in Nebraska. He died on 1 Jun 1949 in Snohomish Co., Washington.
23. MAY was born in 1879/1884 in Nebraska. She died in Monroe, California.
Children of Leonard and May: Edna Maurine Haynes Stone (1899-1973), Myrtle Haynes (?), Glen Alfred Haynes (abt 1902-?), Cleo O. Haynes (abt 1900-?)
44. ALFRED LEWIS HAYNES was born about 1850 in Pennsylvania. He died on 18 Jun 1926 in Deschutes Co., Oregon.
45. MARY A TONER was born on 24 Oct 1859 in Illinois. She died on 2 Aug 1907 in Snohomish Co., Washington. The cause of death was cerebral apoplexy.
Children of Alfred and Mary: Leonard C. Haynes (abt 1876-1949), John Nathan Haynes, Sr. (1877--?), Martha Haynes (1878-?), Charles R. Haynes (1880-?), Alfred Lewis Haynes, Jr (1882-1947), Rosa Sharon Haynes (1884-?), Minnie Hope Haynes (abt 1886-?), Infant Haynes (abt 1890-1890), Nina Joy Haynes (1892-1972), Marguerite "Reta" Haynes Webb (1894-?), James W. Haynes (abt 1906-?)
88. JACKSON HAINES was born about 1828 in Pennsylvania. He died in Unknown.
89. SARAH LATIMORE was born in Nov 1823 in Pennsylvania. She died in Unknown.
Children of Jackson and Sarah: Alfred Lewis Haynes (abt 1850-1926), Lindsey Haines (1853-1931)
176. AARON HAINES was born about 1802 in Pennsylvania. He died about 1885 in Pennsylvania.
177. ELIZABETH ESTLE was born about 1802. She died before 1850 in Pennsylvania.
Children of Aaron and Elizabeth: Elisha Haines (?), Infant Haines (abt 1823), Infant Haines (abt 1825), Jackson Haines (abt 1828-?), Infant Haines (abt 1832), Elijah Haines (1840-1898)
Aaron married (2): Susan Van Swearingen. 2 children: Sarah E. Haynes (abt 1877-?) and Frederick G. Haynes (abt 1879-?)
352. AARON HAINES was born in 1765 in Ulster, Ireland. He died in 1818 in Greene Co., Pennsylvania.
353. ABERILLAH HILL was born about 1767 in Ireland. She died on 27 Apr 1854 in Whitely, Green Co., Pennsylvania.
Children of Aaron and Aberillah: Hannah Haines Fox (abt 1788-1854), Elisha Haines (abt 1790-?), Sarah Haines Botts (abt 1793-1836), Reuben Haines (abt 1795-1833), James Haines (1798-1863), Mary Haines Miller (1800-?), Aaron Haines (abt 1802-1885), Catherine Haines Dobbins (abt 1804-?), John Hill Haines (abt 1805-1854), Aberillah Haines (1808-?), Elijah haines (1812-1885), Elizabeth Haines Rose (1815-1852)
704. GEORGE JUSTUS HAINES was born in 1745 in Ulster, Ireland. He died in 1792 in Greene Co., Pennsylvania.
705. MARGARET was born about 1750 in Ulster, Ireland. She died in Ulster, New York.
Children of George and Margaret: Aaron Haines (abt 1765-1818), Elsy Haines (abt 1765-?), John Haines (abt 1769-?), Reuben Haines (1771-?), George Haines (1773-1850), Sarah Catherine Haines (abt 1774-1836), Mary Haines (1775-1820), Daniel Haines (1776-1853), Nancy Haines Gerard (1777-?) and Margaret Haines Johns (1790-?)
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From the Hailar Family, George Justus and family emigrated in 1773 from Ireland to New York.
From Rich Mather, quoting Richard Haines & His Descendants, name could have been Haney when family came to America; would have been O'h Eana in Ireland.
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This is new research for me, so I'll keep you posted on new information I find. If you have any information about this HAYNES/HAINES family, please leave me a comment!
~happy huntings
This is absolutely a work in progress - I JUST started on this family and only have online information (census and other trees) as sources.
Today.... #11... Edna Maurine HAYNES
7 generations of HAYNES/HAINES connected through:
4. Walter Scott Morgan (1912-1950)
5. Anne Rose Stone (1918 - ?)
10. JAMES ELLIS STONE was born on 27 Dec 1893 in Washington. He died in unknown.
11. EDNA MAURINE HAYNES was born on 14 Apr 1899 in Silver Creek, Nebraska. She died on 7 Jan 1973 in Central Point, Oregon
Children of James and Edna: Edna "Eddie" May Stone, (1916-?), Anne Rose Stone Morgan (1918-?)
22. LEONARD C. HAYNES was born about 1876 in Nebraska. He died on 1 Jun 1949 in Snohomish Co., Washington.
23. MAY was born in 1879/1884 in Nebraska. She died in Monroe, California.
Children of Leonard and May: Edna Maurine Haynes Stone (1899-1973), Myrtle Haynes (?), Glen Alfred Haynes (abt 1902-?), Cleo O. Haynes (abt 1900-?)
44. ALFRED LEWIS HAYNES was born about 1850 in Pennsylvania. He died on 18 Jun 1926 in Deschutes Co., Oregon.
45. MARY A TONER was born on 24 Oct 1859 in Illinois. She died on 2 Aug 1907 in Snohomish Co., Washington. The cause of death was cerebral apoplexy.
Children of Alfred and Mary: Leonard C. Haynes (abt 1876-1949), John Nathan Haynes, Sr. (1877--?), Martha Haynes (1878-?), Charles R. Haynes (1880-?), Alfred Lewis Haynes, Jr (1882-1947), Rosa Sharon Haynes (1884-?), Minnie Hope Haynes (abt 1886-?), Infant Haynes (abt 1890-1890), Nina Joy Haynes (1892-1972), Marguerite "Reta" Haynes Webb (1894-?), James W. Haynes (abt 1906-?)
88. JACKSON HAINES was born about 1828 in Pennsylvania. He died in Unknown.
89. SARAH LATIMORE was born in Nov 1823 in Pennsylvania. She died in Unknown.
Children of Jackson and Sarah: Alfred Lewis Haynes (abt 1850-1926), Lindsey Haines (1853-1931)
176. AARON HAINES was born about 1802 in Pennsylvania. He died about 1885 in Pennsylvania.
177. ELIZABETH ESTLE was born about 1802. She died before 1850 in Pennsylvania.
Children of Aaron and Elizabeth: Elisha Haines (?), Infant Haines (abt 1823), Infant Haines (abt 1825), Jackson Haines (abt 1828-?), Infant Haines (abt 1832), Elijah Haines (1840-1898)
Aaron married (2): Susan Van Swearingen. 2 children: Sarah E. Haynes (abt 1877-?) and Frederick G. Haynes (abt 1879-?)
352. AARON HAINES was born in 1765 in Ulster, Ireland. He died in 1818 in Greene Co., Pennsylvania.
353. ABERILLAH HILL was born about 1767 in Ireland. She died on 27 Apr 1854 in Whitely, Green Co., Pennsylvania.
Children of Aaron and Aberillah: Hannah Haines Fox (abt 1788-1854), Elisha Haines (abt 1790-?), Sarah Haines Botts (abt 1793-1836), Reuben Haines (abt 1795-1833), James Haines (1798-1863), Mary Haines Miller (1800-?), Aaron Haines (abt 1802-1885), Catherine Haines Dobbins (abt 1804-?), John Hill Haines (abt 1805-1854), Aberillah Haines (1808-?), Elijah haines (1812-1885), Elizabeth Haines Rose (1815-1852)
704. GEORGE JUSTUS HAINES was born in 1745 in Ulster, Ireland. He died in 1792 in Greene Co., Pennsylvania.
705. MARGARET was born about 1750 in Ulster, Ireland. She died in Ulster, New York.
Children of George and Margaret: Aaron Haines (abt 1765-1818), Elsy Haines (abt 1765-?), John Haines (abt 1769-?), Reuben Haines (1771-?), George Haines (1773-1850), Sarah Catherine Haines (abt 1774-1836), Mary Haines (1775-1820), Daniel Haines (1776-1853), Nancy Haines Gerard (1777-?) and Margaret Haines Johns (1790-?)
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From the Hailar Family, George Justus and family emigrated in 1773 from Ireland to New York.
From Rich Mather, quoting Richard Haines & His Descendants, name could have been Haney when family came to America; would have been O'h Eana in Ireland.
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This is new research for me, so I'll keep you posted on new information I find. If you have any information about this HAYNES/HAINES family, please leave me a comment!
~happy huntings
Tuesday, January 25, 2011
Tombstone Tuesday - Frederick and Rosa Kuhn
My son's gggGrandparents.
Frederick Kuhn was born 21 Aug 1859 in Kleinjelscha, Hungary. He married Rosa Augustin, who was born 24 Mar 1866 in Hungary. They had 6 children, John (1888-1936), Joseph, (1883-1965), Frederick (abt 1890-?), Mathias Joseph (1893-1996), Rosa (1895-1984), andAnna (1900-?), all of whom were born in Hungary. The family naturalized in 1908.
Joseph, John, and Mathias all are found in Hamilton Co., Ohio records.
Rosa Augustin Kuhn died 23 Nov 1918, Frederick died in 1926, both in Hamilton Co., Ohio. Both were buried at Saint Aloysius Gonzaga Church Cemetery, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
Tombstone information (and picture) from FindAGrave.
Frederick: Memorial #24181305; Rosa: 24181307
Frederick Kuhn, 1859 - 1926
Rosa Augustin, 24 Mar 1866 - 23 Nov 1918
John J. Kuhn, 19 Aug 1888 - 1 Mar 1936
Christine Beilharz, 10 May 1893 - 26 Nov 1967
Parents of Joan Kuhn Dean, "Grandma Joan" who we're still seeing often :-)
Frederick Kuhn was born 21 Aug 1859 in Kleinjelscha, Hungary. He married Rosa Augustin, who was born 24 Mar 1866 in Hungary. They had 6 children, John (1888-1936), Joseph, (1883-1965), Frederick (abt 1890-?), Mathias Joseph (1893-1996), Rosa (1895-1984), andAnna (1900-?), all of whom were born in Hungary. The family naturalized in 1908.
Joseph, John, and Mathias all are found in Hamilton Co., Ohio records.
Rosa Augustin Kuhn died 23 Nov 1918, Frederick died in 1926, both in Hamilton Co., Ohio. Both were buried at Saint Aloysius Gonzaga Church Cemetery, Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., Ohio.
Tombstone information (and picture) from FindAGrave.
Frederick: Memorial #24181305; Rosa: 24181307
Frederick Kuhn, 1859 - 1926
Rosa Augustin, 24 Mar 1866 - 23 Nov 1918
John J. Kuhn, 19 Aug 1888 - 1 Mar 1936
Christine Beilharz, 10 May 1893 - 26 Nov 1967
Parents of Joan Kuhn Dean, "Grandma Joan" who we're still seeing often :-)
Wednesday, January 19, 2011
Wordless Wednesday
Harriett Anne Loveall Young (aka, my mGrandmother)
Wearing 4 watches. Very funny lady, indeed!
Lake Shasta, CA, mid-1950's, judging by Charlie's size in the background.
Monday, January 17, 2011
Ancestor Approved
Tonight I must share my humble thanks at being "Ancestor Approved"! Yay!
I was awarded this from Susan Edminster of Echo Hill Ancestors, a blog I have been following for some time and greatly enjoy! The award was created by Leslie Ann Ballou of Ancestors Live Here to recognize “blogs full of tips and tricks as well as funny and heartwarming stories…”
I know that Sue at Echo Hill fulfills this, and I am slowly attempting to myself, in this blog, not only showcase my own family history, but some stumbles and leaps I've encountered along the way.
To participate you must list 10 things that surprised, humbled or enlightened you about your ancestors.
And of course, to pass along to 10 other bloggers out there. I am working on this part and will have a "Part II" updated soon.
For tonight, my 10 surprises, humbling and enlightening experiences (phew, where to start?!):
1. The LOOPS family, as is my surname and for most of us, where our research begins, started as a "you and your brothers are the only Loops out there" statement. And how even in the beginning's of the internet (way before Rootsweb and the LDS websites) proved nearly instantly that this was not the case. Surprise! There is family out there!
2. That our LOOPS came from a family who died on the ship's crossing from Germany, leaving two young boys who DID NOT KNOW THEIR NAME, and were separated when arriving. It was assumed by all current generations that they never found each other.
3. My recent (gulp) discovery, when finding the First and Only known picture of my ggGrandfather Frederick Loops, has the "Loops, Milwaukee Wisconsin" logo on his picture. Meaning it was taken at his BROTHER's, Charles Loops, photography studio in Milwaukee. Not only did they find each other, but they met....and Frederick, his son Charles (Charles the first) and Charles' daughter Georgebelle all ventured from North Carolina to visit this "other" Loops family in Wisconsin.
How sad that this information gets lost in just a generation. And how wonderful to finally discover! (tears)
4. I am consistently humbled and fascinated by researching the LOVEALL family, and that, to date, I have yet to find a LOVEALL that is not descended from Henry Loveall, 1694-1786. We are all connected. This is an amazing family to research.
5. In a sappy, sentimental nod, I LOVE that my family has endowed me "Family Historian", not just in that I'm the only who really Does this research and knows all the lines, but that they have enlisted me to be the physical keeper of the family photographs and sentiments. Boxes just keep arriving. And each new box brings a new set of adventures and explorations - and a whole new set of tears.
6. My sons' family is a new and I foresee, lasting research project into OLD AMERICANA. It seems that each new name into Dean, Haskell, Hathway, White, Hammond, etc., leads me down another path to American generations of Salem and Plymouth. These make me want to read every historical novel and watch old movies to get a visual glimpse into the garb, the language, the religion, the life that these original American settlers had.
7. Humbling that there are still so many road-blocks. I still do not know the heritage of my YOUNG family, or the correct origins of the WEBBs. I love the challenge of still having something to "research", but that it makes you want to pull your hair out.
8. Not a surprise, but I am continually impressed with my Great-Uncle Art Young, and the name that he has provided to Bow-Hunting in America. If you are a bow-hunter, you know Pope-Young. That's Art! He led an amazing life. You can read more about his adventures here.
9. As I dive more into my North Carolina roots, even though I no longer live in North Carolina, I feel more and more connected to the families of Kinston, Lenoir County, where Frederick LOOPS settled; who's daughter Lelia married a MEWBORN; who's son Charles married a WEBB, who's mother was a PITTMAN. The history books of the area tell of these families, families of whom I am all a part of. And it makes me want to return, visit, learn, and give a few hugs.
10. Impending surprise of DNA research out there, and a lil lady who believes she might be a descendant of our Frederick LOOPS and we shall have the DNA results soon to show whether or not this possibility. That DNA research is even possible in calculating genealogical history is certainly the newest of all research out there. What will this possibly mean in the future, I wonder?
There you have it, for tonight. 10 wonderments that have crossed my path in this wonderful adventure. Thank you again, Sue, for the honor. I shall pass it along!
~happy huntings,
Joanna
I know that Sue at Echo Hill fulfills this, and I am slowly attempting to myself, in this blog, not only showcase my own family history, but some stumbles and leaps I've encountered along the way.
To participate you must list 10 things that surprised, humbled or enlightened you about your ancestors.
And of course, to pass along to 10 other bloggers out there. I am working on this part and will have a "Part II" updated soon.
For tonight, my 10 surprises, humbling and enlightening experiences (phew, where to start?!):
1. The LOOPS family, as is my surname and for most of us, where our research begins, started as a "you and your brothers are the only Loops out there" statement. And how even in the beginning's of the internet (way before Rootsweb and the LDS websites) proved nearly instantly that this was not the case. Surprise! There is family out there!
2. That our LOOPS came from a family who died on the ship's crossing from Germany, leaving two young boys who DID NOT KNOW THEIR NAME, and were separated when arriving. It was assumed by all current generations that they never found each other.
3. My recent (gulp) discovery, when finding the First and Only known picture of my ggGrandfather Frederick Loops, has the "Loops, Milwaukee Wisconsin" logo on his picture. Meaning it was taken at his BROTHER's, Charles Loops, photography studio in Milwaukee. Not only did they find each other, but they met....and Frederick, his son Charles (Charles the first) and Charles' daughter Georgebelle all ventured from North Carolina to visit this "other" Loops family in Wisconsin.
How sad that this information gets lost in just a generation. And how wonderful to finally discover! (tears)
4. I am consistently humbled and fascinated by researching the LOVEALL family, and that, to date, I have yet to find a LOVEALL that is not descended from Henry Loveall, 1694-1786. We are all connected. This is an amazing family to research.
5. In a sappy, sentimental nod, I LOVE that my family has endowed me "Family Historian", not just in that I'm the only who really Does this research and knows all the lines, but that they have enlisted me to be the physical keeper of the family photographs and sentiments. Boxes just keep arriving. And each new box brings a new set of adventures and explorations - and a whole new set of tears.
6. My sons' family is a new and I foresee, lasting research project into OLD AMERICANA. It seems that each new name into Dean, Haskell, Hathway, White, Hammond, etc., leads me down another path to American generations of Salem and Plymouth. These make me want to read every historical novel and watch old movies to get a visual glimpse into the garb, the language, the religion, the life that these original American settlers had.
7. Humbling that there are still so many road-blocks. I still do not know the heritage of my YOUNG family, or the correct origins of the WEBBs. I love the challenge of still having something to "research", but that it makes you want to pull your hair out.
8. Not a surprise, but I am continually impressed with my Great-Uncle Art Young, and the name that he has provided to Bow-Hunting in America. If you are a bow-hunter, you know Pope-Young. That's Art! He led an amazing life. You can read more about his adventures here.
9. As I dive more into my North Carolina roots, even though I no longer live in North Carolina, I feel more and more connected to the families of Kinston, Lenoir County, where Frederick LOOPS settled; who's daughter Lelia married a MEWBORN; who's son Charles married a WEBB, who's mother was a PITTMAN. The history books of the area tell of these families, families of whom I am all a part of. And it makes me want to return, visit, learn, and give a few hugs.
10. Impending surprise of DNA research out there, and a lil lady who believes she might be a descendant of our Frederick LOOPS and we shall have the DNA results soon to show whether or not this possibility. That DNA research is even possible in calculating genealogical history is certainly the newest of all research out there. What will this possibly mean in the future, I wonder?
There you have it, for tonight. 10 wonderments that have crossed my path in this wonderful adventure. Thank you again, Sue, for the honor. I shall pass it along!
~happy huntings,
Joanna
Sunday, January 9, 2011
Friday's Family Photos (Loops of North Carolina)
Frederick Christopher Loops
(Friedrich Christian Theodor Lueps)
8 Sept 1847 - Altenhagen, Prussia - 12 Nov 1901 - Kinston, North Carolina
Charles Ernest Loops, Sr (Charles the first)
Born 12 Nov 1875, Kinston, North Carolina
Edgar Loops, born about 1880 in Kinston, North Carolina
Charles E. Loops, Sr & Eva Bell Webb Loops
son Frank, daughter Georgebelle
Loops Family:
Fred, Charles the first, Eva Bell Webb Loops, Georgebelle, Frank, Melba Dekle Loops, Charles II, (unknown... probably Marion Farley Loops)
Georgebelle Loops Smith
1904-1990
Charles Ernest Loops, II - 1906-1977
Charles Ernest Loops, II
Frederick Carlysle Loops (1908-1965)
(Friedrich Christian Theodor Lueps)
8 Sept 1847 - Altenhagen, Prussia - 12 Nov 1901 - Kinston, North Carolina
Charles Ernest Loops, Sr (Charles the first)
Born 12 Nov 1875, Kinston, North Carolina
Edgar Loops, born about 1880 in Kinston, North Carolina
Charles E. Loops, Sr & Eva Bell Webb Loops
son Frank, daughter Georgebelle
Loops Family:
Fred, Charles the first, Eva Bell Webb Loops, Georgebelle, Frank, Melba Dekle Loops, Charles II, (unknown... probably Marion Farley Loops)
Georgebelle Loops Smith
1904-1990
Charles Ernest Loops, II - 1906-1977
Charles Ernest Loops, II
Frederick Carlysle Loops (1908-1965)
Thursday, December 30, 2010
Friday's Family Photos (Webb)
These are a few wonderful Webb Family photos. Enjoy!
Rev. James Barney WEBB, 6 Dec. 1823 - 2 Aug 1901
Emma Webb Noland, abt 1868 - 1954
George Bell Webb, 8 Jul 1855 - 21 Aug 1914
Agnes Pittman Webb, 17 Feb 1856 - 16 Oct 1883
Guy Webb, 24 Jul 1877 - 5 Oct 1939
Frank Webb, 5 Sept 1879 - 4 Oct 1912
Eva Bell Webb Loops, 28 April 1882 - 15 Sept 1966
And Who is this? Looks like George Bell Webb there in the center... and the boys in the top-hats? Anyone know?
Rev. James Barney WEBB, 6 Dec. 1823 - 2 Aug 1901
Emma Webb Noland, abt 1868 - 1954
George Bell Webb, 8 Jul 1855 - 21 Aug 1914
Agnes Pittman Webb, 17 Feb 1856 - 16 Oct 1883
Guy Webb, 24 Jul 1877 - 5 Oct 1939
Frank Webb, 5 Sept 1879 - 4 Oct 1912
Eva Bell Webb Loops, 28 April 1882 - 15 Sept 1966
And Who is this? Looks like George Bell Webb there in the center... and the boys in the top-hats? Anyone know?
Wednesday, December 22, 2010
J.S. Howard: Founding Towns was a Family Tradition (SOHS)
by Rodney Coleman, regular contributor to Southern Oregon Heritage Today.
Originally published in: Southern Oregon Heritage Today, Nov, 2002; 4:11
James Sullivan Howard, dubbed "the Father of Medford" when he did on November 13, 1919, was born April 21, 1932, to Sullivan and Elizabeth Howard in Mason, New Hampshire. Educated in Illinois, Howard married Margaret E. Snuggs in 1855. In 1860, the couple and their three children moved to Jacksonville, where Howard became a successful surveyor and civil engineer.
In addition to advancing regional development by conducting a preliminary survey for the Southern Pacific Railroad and engineering the COPCO COndor Dam, Howard examined surveys for the U.S. Office in Oregon and Arizona until 1898, and opened a bakery and butcher hsop in Jacksonville's historic Kubli Building in 1875.
After fire destroyed Howard's business in 1884, he built a general store near modern-day Front Street between Eight and Main streets in Medford. Howard later recalled that contemporaries criticized his choice of location, at first, calling in it the townsite of "Mudville,", "Rabbitville," and "caparral", but suggested he "laughed last" after he "got in right" with railroad officiallys and witnessed Medford's growth and incorporation two years later.
A familiar presence at the Nash Hotel in Medford's early days, Howard became president of the Town Board of Trustees and Medford's first mayor in 1885, postmaster, and Wells Fargo agent. As one of Medford's founders, Howard had followed in the footsteps of his father, who co-founded Wethersfield and Kewanee, Illinois, in 1837 and 1854. However, the "rags to riches" lore associated with his arrival in Jacksonville with "only fifty cents in his pocket" also distinguishes J.S. Howard from other proud and resourceful pioneers of his day.
Originally published in: Southern Oregon Heritage Today, Nov, 2002; 4:11
James Sullivan Howard, dubbed "the Father of Medford" when he did on November 13, 1919, was born April 21, 1932, to Sullivan and Elizabeth Howard in Mason, New Hampshire. Educated in Illinois, Howard married Margaret E. Snuggs in 1855. In 1860, the couple and their three children moved to Jacksonville, where Howard became a successful surveyor and civil engineer.
In addition to advancing regional development by conducting a preliminary survey for the Southern Pacific Railroad and engineering the COPCO COndor Dam, Howard examined surveys for the U.S. Office in Oregon and Arizona until 1898, and opened a bakery and butcher hsop in Jacksonville's historic Kubli Building in 1875.
After fire destroyed Howard's business in 1884, he built a general store near modern-day Front Street between Eight and Main streets in Medford. Howard later recalled that contemporaries criticized his choice of location, at first, calling in it the townsite of "Mudville,", "Rabbitville," and "caparral", but suggested he "laughed last" after he "got in right" with railroad officiallys and witnessed Medford's growth and incorporation two years later.
A familiar presence at the Nash Hotel in Medford's early days, Howard became president of the Town Board of Trustees and Medford's first mayor in 1885, postmaster, and Wells Fargo agent. As one of Medford's founders, Howard had followed in the footsteps of his father, who co-founded Wethersfield and Kewanee, Illinois, in 1837 and 1854. However, the "rags to riches" lore associated with his arrival in Jacksonville with "only fifty cents in his pocket" also distinguishes J.S. Howard from other proud and resourceful pioneers of his day.
Rogue River Catsup
by William Alley (historian and certified archivist)
Published in Southern Oregon Heritage Today, Nov 2002. 4:11
When Frank L. KNIGHT decided to expand his Portland-based pickle and vinegar packinghouse to include the manufacture of catsup, he spent two years studying the processes involved and seeking a suitable location. Ultimately Knight accepted the recommendations of the experts at Oregon Agricultural College in Corvallis and selected Medford as the location of his new catsup plant. "The Rogue River Valley," Knight was told, "produces a tomato that is particularly adapted to catsup manufacture." By locating his plant in Medford, Knight could turn the tomatoes into catsup within a few hours of their being picked; "That is a mighty important factor in making high grade catsup."
The Knight Packing Company opened its Medford plant on the south end of Front Street in the summer 1916. Initial production capacity was estimated at fifteen tons of tomatoes per day, with room to expand to thirty tons in the future. By 1925, the plant was processing thirty-five tons of produce per day, the equivalent of 2,750 gallons of catsup.
After harvesting, Rogue Valley tomatoes were delivered to the plant where they were washed in large tanks. They were then scooped onto a conveyor belt, passing by employees who trimmed the tomatoes and removed any defective ones. The fruit was then washed again and steamed before being dropped into the chopper, which separated the seeds and skin; the remaining pulp was then sent to large kettles where it was cooked with onions, garlic, and spices. After cooking, vinegar, salt and sugar were added to make the finished product. The catsup was then packed into five-gallon cans and shipped to Knight's Portland facility where it was bottled in sixteen-ounce bottles.
Knight's Rogue River Catsup, the only catsup manufactures in Oregon, was an immediate success. At the end of the first eight years, the company could boast a 75 percent share of the Portland catsup market, and distribution had expanded to include parts of Washington, Idaho, and California. The company even went so far as to copyright the name "Rogue River" in connection with any tomato-based product.
The presence of the Knight catsup plant had an immediate impact locally. In addition to providing a significant payroll, the acreage devoted to commercial tomato cultivation soon increased. In 1924, the plant's production capacity was doubled to take advantage of the increased availability. The plant was again expanded in 1936 with the arrival of new, modernized equipment. No longer did the catsup need to be shipped in bulk to Portland for bottling. With the new equipment, the Knight Medford plant was now producing catsup at a rate of fifteen bottles per minute.
Knight's Rogue River Catsup flourished in Medford for twenty-five years, but the end came suddenly in the early 1940s. By 1942, the Knight Packing Company had disappeared form the local directories. The October 1925 issue of The Volt, the newsletter of the California-Oregon Power Company, now preserved in the collected of the Southern Oregon Historical Society, gives us a brief snapshot of a now-forgotten local industry.
Published in Southern Oregon Heritage Today, Nov 2002. 4:11
When Frank L. KNIGHT decided to expand his Portland-based pickle and vinegar packinghouse to include the manufacture of catsup, he spent two years studying the processes involved and seeking a suitable location. Ultimately Knight accepted the recommendations of the experts at Oregon Agricultural College in Corvallis and selected Medford as the location of his new catsup plant. "The Rogue River Valley," Knight was told, "produces a tomato that is particularly adapted to catsup manufacture." By locating his plant in Medford, Knight could turn the tomatoes into catsup within a few hours of their being picked; "That is a mighty important factor in making high grade catsup."
The Knight Packing Company opened its Medford plant on the south end of Front Street in the summer 1916. Initial production capacity was estimated at fifteen tons of tomatoes per day, with room to expand to thirty tons in the future. By 1925, the plant was processing thirty-five tons of produce per day, the equivalent of 2,750 gallons of catsup.
After harvesting, Rogue Valley tomatoes were delivered to the plant where they were washed in large tanks. They were then scooped onto a conveyor belt, passing by employees who trimmed the tomatoes and removed any defective ones. The fruit was then washed again and steamed before being dropped into the chopper, which separated the seeds and skin; the remaining pulp was then sent to large kettles where it was cooked with onions, garlic, and spices. After cooking, vinegar, salt and sugar were added to make the finished product. The catsup was then packed into five-gallon cans and shipped to Knight's Portland facility where it was bottled in sixteen-ounce bottles.
Knight's Rogue River Catsup, the only catsup manufactures in Oregon, was an immediate success. At the end of the first eight years, the company could boast a 75 percent share of the Portland catsup market, and distribution had expanded to include parts of Washington, Idaho, and California. The company even went so far as to copyright the name "Rogue River" in connection with any tomato-based product.
The presence of the Knight catsup plant had an immediate impact locally. In addition to providing a significant payroll, the acreage devoted to commercial tomato cultivation soon increased. In 1924, the plant's production capacity was doubled to take advantage of the increased availability. The plant was again expanded in 1936 with the arrival of new, modernized equipment. No longer did the catsup need to be shipped in bulk to Portland for bottling. With the new equipment, the Knight Medford plant was now producing catsup at a rate of fifteen bottles per minute.
Knight's Rogue River Catsup flourished in Medford for twenty-five years, but the end came suddenly in the early 1940s. By 1942, the Knight Packing Company had disappeared form the local directories. The October 1925 issue of The Volt, the newsletter of the California-Oregon Power Company, now preserved in the collected of the Southern Oregon Historical Society, gives us a brief snapshot of a now-forgotten local industry.
Monday, December 20, 2010
Calling Webb Family Researchers
My ggGrandfather was George Bell Webb of Kinston, NC.
He was first married to Agnes Pittman, dau of Francis Marion Pittman and Louisa Mewborn, and had three children: Guy, James Francis "Frank" , and Eva Bell (my gGrandmother).
Agnes died in 1883 and he later married her sister Emma, and had two daughters: Agnes Webb Stacy and Carrie Lulu Bernard.
My gGrandmother Eva Bell Webb Loops saved so much; so much from the Webb family. And apparently her daughter Georgebelle Loops Smith also did a bit of research and was in communication with the Webb family.
I have pictures.
I have crazy tons of pictures.
I have pictures that I know no one in them, except that they are this WEBB family.
Agnes as a child; Carrie Lulu as a child, on and on and on. But these are the two evident from the writings on the photos.
I need help. I need someone to tell me who these are - and I can send you the photos too!
I'll get around to scanning and posting online. But if you are of this family, please contact me, because I need help. I've been given an amazing gift, and I know this needs to be shared with other researchers.
Contact me: thefamilyorchard@earthlink.net
And please stay posted here on the site, because I'll be posting photos as soon as I start scanning.
He was first married to Agnes Pittman, dau of Francis Marion Pittman and Louisa Mewborn, and had three children: Guy, James Francis "Frank" , and Eva Bell (my gGrandmother).
Agnes died in 1883 and he later married her sister Emma, and had two daughters: Agnes Webb Stacy and Carrie Lulu Bernard.
My gGrandmother Eva Bell Webb Loops saved so much; so much from the Webb family. And apparently her daughter Georgebelle Loops Smith also did a bit of research and was in communication with the Webb family.
I have pictures.
I have crazy tons of pictures.
I have pictures that I know no one in them, except that they are this WEBB family.
Agnes as a child; Carrie Lulu as a child, on and on and on. But these are the two evident from the writings on the photos.
I need help. I need someone to tell me who these are - and I can send you the photos too!
I'll get around to scanning and posting online. But if you are of this family, please contact me, because I need help. I've been given an amazing gift, and I know this needs to be shared with other researchers.
Contact me: thefamilyorchard@earthlink.net
And please stay posted here on the site, because I'll be posting photos as soon as I start scanning.
They're Just People
I am a bit overwhelmed at the moment, but I have to share my adventures tonight into the world of the Loops family. I had mentioned my Uncle Frank's passing a few months ago, the end of his generation of Loops, and the rememberall of our family. He was also the youngest son of Charles I and Eva Webb Loops, and lived near his sister Georgebell who'd passed 15yrs prior. Which means, he had all her "stuff".
Today arrived all of their combined "stuff".
As the Historian of the family, as my father described it, it just made sense to send everything to me. Everyone else would enjoy a few moments of nostalgia and awe (and confusion and great overwhelmed feelings), and then it'd go into the closet.
I feel overwhelmed with the 30lbs of "stuff" that arrived at my house tonight, but I also feel very honored. Eva Bell Webb Loops, my gGrandmother saved; her daughter Georgebelle saved that and continued on with her own genealogy research and more. It is evident in these boxes that I now hold 100+years of pictures, bibles, letters, research, history.... that is our Loops family, and also our Webb family.
I get to keep this! And I will. I will scan and digitize; save and save and save. I need more fire-proof boxes, but I will get them. I will put in special folders and files and help document the mix-matched findings that are stored in these two boxes. And I will help create something that can be passed on further. (oh, my dear son, I wonder if you'll even want it... you will have little choice, you know? it's you or your uncles).
I haven't digested fully yet what is included in these boxes. I will have much more to say as I dig deeper. Tonight was simply a 3hr look over everything, and then back in your box you go.
But it's overwhelming. So long to research a family and to now have faces to that family. Here you are, George B. Webb, in photo. Photo after photo, there you are. You were as alive as I am today, with emotions and love of your children and interest in your wife and political ambitions or whatever... you were alive. You are not simply a date in a book... you were a man.
Love letters from Charles E. Loops "the first", to Eva, 1901-1903, when they were both young and separated, yet in love and soon to be married. They were both beautiful - I know this now... I have pictures. And their handwriting is beautiful and learned. They were young people in love, and to read the letters between them is beautiful and heart-warming, and confirming that.... they were people. Just... people. Alive and in love, as much I have had romantic feelings in my life.
I think sometimes I get caught up in the names and dates. I try to remember the stories, the realities that are our ancestors, that they lived and breathed just the same. But to finally see pictures of their then fashion and hair-styles, read their style of writing, to really see what their day was focused on.... it becomes real. I don't know how I can do this with people hundred's of years back, aside from watching movies that place me in that time, but for now.... at least I have a visual face on my ggGrandparents. It's amazing.
SO MUCH more to share as I digest.
For now, I'm in awe.
Today arrived all of their combined "stuff".
As the Historian of the family, as my father described it, it just made sense to send everything to me. Everyone else would enjoy a few moments of nostalgia and awe (and confusion and great overwhelmed feelings), and then it'd go into the closet.
I feel overwhelmed with the 30lbs of "stuff" that arrived at my house tonight, but I also feel very honored. Eva Bell Webb Loops, my gGrandmother saved; her daughter Georgebelle saved that and continued on with her own genealogy research and more. It is evident in these boxes that I now hold 100+years of pictures, bibles, letters, research, history.... that is our Loops family, and also our Webb family.
I get to keep this! And I will. I will scan and digitize; save and save and save. I need more fire-proof boxes, but I will get them. I will put in special folders and files and help document the mix-matched findings that are stored in these two boxes. And I will help create something that can be passed on further. (oh, my dear son, I wonder if you'll even want it... you will have little choice, you know? it's you or your uncles).
I haven't digested fully yet what is included in these boxes. I will have much more to say as I dig deeper. Tonight was simply a 3hr look over everything, and then back in your box you go.
But it's overwhelming. So long to research a family and to now have faces to that family. Here you are, George B. Webb, in photo. Photo after photo, there you are. You were as alive as I am today, with emotions and love of your children and interest in your wife and political ambitions or whatever... you were alive. You are not simply a date in a book... you were a man.
Love letters from Charles E. Loops "the first", to Eva, 1901-1903, when they were both young and separated, yet in love and soon to be married. They were both beautiful - I know this now... I have pictures. And their handwriting is beautiful and learned. They were young people in love, and to read the letters between them is beautiful and heart-warming, and confirming that.... they were people. Just... people. Alive and in love, as much I have had romantic feelings in my life.
I think sometimes I get caught up in the names and dates. I try to remember the stories, the realities that are our ancestors, that they lived and breathed just the same. But to finally see pictures of their then fashion and hair-styles, read their style of writing, to really see what their day was focused on.... it becomes real. I don't know how I can do this with people hundred's of years back, aside from watching movies that place me in that time, but for now.... at least I have a visual face on my ggGrandparents. It's amazing.
SO MUCH more to share as I digest.
For now, I'm in awe.
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